I have nothing else to add to this.
It’s an old comic, but I needed to say how much I love it and still use it when people defend these moronic ideas. There’s a disturbing lack of appreciation for the artist these days, and I’m always stunned at how okay the general populace is with that fact. Thanks Pat!
Yo Kanye, I’m really happy for you, and I’ma let you finish, but…
Waitaminute, no I’m not; I fucking hate Plato’s ideals.
More seriously, I have mixed feelings about the Salinger thing. When stories can hang around for over a century without hitting public domain… I’m hesitant to oppose an opportunity to undermine the idea of 60-year-old “intellectual property”.
“The living person and his fictional world are inextricable. Removing the former invalidates the latter.”
…Weren’t you the guy that slipped a quick commentary into his webcomic in disapproval of this notion? Something about SNK and Spider-man? =D
An ‘invalidated’ use of a fictional world can still be interesting or valuable on its own merits. The legal integrity might have been established when Stan Lee or SNK signed off the respective rights… But the creative integrity was still up to the merit of the successive authors.
This is not to voice my approval for anyone’s Fanfiction Magnum Opus… Someone with the talent and time to spare on that, and actually do it well, is doing themselves disservice by not making their material their own from the start. I’m just sayin’, there are lots of modern authors who used a fictitious Avalon in their work, some of it very closely mirroring the ‘original setting’. None of them can claim to be responsible for the medieval Welsh source material… But some of those “derivative works” aren’t half-bad.
The distinction that such myths and legends were created in a knowingly plagiaristic creative environment, before the attachment of legal strings to ideas, is at best a flimsy basis to exempt them from a principle of same-author integrity.
I think different standards apply to different works — but it’s three in the morning and I’m not really in prime shape to give a better answer than that or offer up a rubric for determining whether a story/character/setting/etc. is fair game or should be left alone.
I think much of it hinges on the nature of the “derivative” work and whether or not it’s of the same caliber as the original. I mean, if Before Watchmen is on par with Watchmen, I’ll gladly eat my words and say that maybe I’m too much of a stickler about this. (But Before Watchmen is NOT going to be on par with Watchmen, and DC Comics should leave Moore’s work the fuck alone.)
I’m very late to this discussion, but I just have to point out that fanfic is a long, treasured part of literature.
The reason there is a Book 2 of Don Quixote, is because Miguel was pissed that so many other authors were ripping off his idea and making money doing it! So he wrote a second book and killed off the character.
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